I would like blue prints to any famous buildings. such as the WTC the whithouse, and ather famous landmark buildings (especially the petronas towers!) if you can find them. if possible send them to me in a few days as i need them for a school project

• ID# 214.2 (reply to #214.1)
  From: Koo - 9 October 2001

  I too need them for a school project, but I cant find any anywhere.

• ID# 214.3 (reply to #214.1)
  From: dan - 15 October 2001

  I think someone needs to report you to the F.B.I. What do you need those blueprints for?

  • ID# 214.4 (reply to #214.3) - 15 October 2001
    OK, let's not get carried away with assumptions. I know that at least univ students who have to be guided all the way are to be arrested, but still... ;^) ED

  • ID# 214.11 (reply to #214.3)
    From: adrean perfetto - 17 August 2005

    i agree with you man it dont look right

• ID# 214.5 (reply to #214.1)
  From: yatpay ([email protected]) - 15 October 2001

  Do you people know where to get the blueprints for the World Trade Center? I'm doing a project in physics about how and why they fell and it'd help. Also, i think it'd be kind of cool to have them around. =P Any ideas would be helpful......

  • ID# 214.9 (reply to #214.5)
    From: Brodey - 31 May 2005

    I think i have some info for you. I have been trying to find bluprints to the world trade center as well but i can not find them either. I am assuming that any postation of the blueprints is illegal and will never be placed for public eyes.i can tell you how they fell though. It fell because of the "pancake effect" this is when a few stories of a building collapse and then quickly they all collapse on each other. once this process starts it can not be stopped, and it olny takes a few seconds to destroy a 500 story building, so it collapsed the WTC quickly because the WTC is only 110 stories. because of fire and structoral damage of the two towers all of the buildings in the plaza were destroyed within 24 hours. for over a week all of the southern tip as far as to Rockerfeller center was covered with soot and debris for less then a 100 ft. radius. a mexican designer unlike Minsoru Yakasami the original designer plans to make the building more areo-dynamic and withstand powerful blows. as a matter of fact the WTC would have never fallen down if the idiot engineers that put up the place would have put the correct amount of fire protection on the steel bars of the 2 structures.

    • ID# 214.10 (reply to #214.9) - 31 May 2005
      Philippe Petit's book -- "To Reach the Clouds: My High Wire Walk Between the Twin Towers" -- in fact has a plan from the original blueprints as well as photos and diagrams connected to the wire attachment.
      As for the ash coverage, surely not to Rockefeller Center (although, if the wind had blown the other way, that could have happened), you must mean Chase Manhattan Plaza, another Rockefeller undertaking.
      Not so certain about the fire protection issue either; after all, with the impact of the planes loosening much of the fire proofing, the steel was exposed to fires. The original assumption of the floor trusses being main culprits by giving way in the heat has also been somewhat questioned in later analysis:
      (The New York Times, 20 Oct. 2004:)
      "[T]he report released yesterday say, the Boeing 767 planes ripped through a swath of exterior steel columns, resulting in an immediate redistribution of the load to adjacent perimeter columns and, to a lesser extent, to the core columns.
      "As the planes penetrated the towers, they destroyed sections of the floors, knocked off spray-on fireproofing and severed three to 10 of the core columns in each tower."
      "As temperatures rose in the buildings, the remaining core columns softened and buckled, shifting much of the burden to the building's exterior. The floors, which largely remained intact outside the impact zone, reacted by pulling the exterior columns inward, adding to the extreme stress on the exterior columns.
      "In the north tower, as fires consumed office furniture and other debris, softening the steel in the exterior columns, they gradually started to bow inward and then buckle. Ultimately, the entire upper section of the building above the impact zone tilted to the south, sealing the fate of the tower and anyone who remained inside.
      "'The buckled columns exceeded the strain energy that could be absorbed by the structure,' the report says. 'Global collapse then ensued.'
      "The floors played a more significant role in the collapse sequence in the south tower, the investigators said. Fires there caused them to sag by as much as two feet, adding to the inward pulling that already had started because of the buckling of the core columns."
      As for the fire protection's role:
      "The federal investigators found, after conducting a test with a reconstructed section of the floor, that the original fireproofing on the floors, as built, was sufficient to ensure that they met the New York City building code under standard testing parameters."
      "[...] without the plane impact - which weakened the structure and knocked fireproofing off the floor trusses and columns - if a typical office fire had occurred, 'it is likely that burnout would have occurred without collapse.'"
      To counter a plane impact and an inferno of aviation fuel, the columns would have needed very hefty and tight-fitting fireproofing indeed. If installed, that could have given the people in staircases enough time to escape, but the buildings would still have probably fallen. Just my 2 cents. ED

    • ID# 214.11 (reply to #214.9)
      From: Erock ([email protected]) - 8 July 2006

      The blueprints for the WTC aren't illegal to obtain. Its just that the govt won't release them to the public, or to FEMA or the FBI or anyone. They, by law, are supposed to, since the WTCs were built with public funding and public money....so by law, a firm has to release blueprints of any public funded building to the general public.
      It only takes a few seconds to destroy a 500 story building? Dude, are you freakin kidding me? How many 500 story buildings do you know of? The tallest building in the world (ever physically built) is 1,667 ft and 101 stories. Do you realize that a building 500 stories would be ONE MILE high?
      Plans were to originally make the building more aerodynamic and withstand powerful blows? It was built to withstand hurricanes and gails, which it DID endure and withstand, and it was also built to withstand the largest airline at that time, the 707, which is the same size as a 737.
      LOL, the engineers are idiots for not putting fireproofing on the steel beams? There are two things wrong with this statement. First of all, do you think some "spray on" fireproofing can repel jet fuel? 2nd, how can the jet fuel even melt the steel when jet fuel burns much lower than the melting point of steel?

  • ID# 214.6 (reply to #214.5)
    From: Paul - 28 June 2003

    You can not get blueprints of the wtc. Not on the world wide web that is. The only way to get blueprints is to call and ask the company who build the WTC. But i think it conna cost you.
    WTC. The ever missing towers <:-(.

  • ID# 214.7 (reply to #214.5)
    From: john doe jr. - 5 December 2004

    blueprints for all public buildings are supposed to be kept in the building and zoning dept. for use by the fire department in cases of emergency. for some reason it seems that the wtc has been exempt from that requirment as well as being exempt from the laws of physics??

    • ID# 214.8 (reply to #214.7) - 5 December 2004
      The WTC was (as well as the new one will be) located on Port Authority land and thus not under city jurisdiction. A NY Daily News (yipee) article quote:
      "The lead investigator in the case, Gene Corley of the American Society of Civil Engineers, said the Port Authority refused to hand over blueprints for the twin towers - crucial for evaluating the wreckage - until he signed a waiver saying his team would not use the plans in a lawsuit against the agency." ("WTC Probe Ills Bared", Paul H.B. Shin, Mar 3, 2002)
      The Port Authority says to have provided the blueprints for federal investigators "within a week", although
      "The lack of clear authority has had unfortunate consequences, the House members said. The Giuliani administration started to send World Trade Center steel off to recycling yards before investigators could examine it to determine whether it might hold crucial clues as to why the buildings fell. The full investigative team set up by FEMA was not allowed to enter ground zero to collect other potentially critical evidence in the weeks after the attack, and it did not get a copy of the World Trade Center blueprints until early January[.]" ("Mismanagement Muddled Collapse Inquiry, House Panel Says", Eric Lipton, same date)
      But at least the new 7 WTC blueprints are more readily available to everyone...
      As for the "physics" thing, the fire protection etc. requirements for buildings within Port Authority property and jurisdiction were more lenient than on those built on NYC "itself", thus the ability to "get away" with less of that dealing with the laws of physics (in addition to the perimeter wall structural system and the fact that burning fuel from the innards of a long-haul plane is a pretty daunting prospect in every case...) ED